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This interview with Allan Barry Laboucan runs almost 1.5 hours and goes all over the map. It starts at about the 9 minute mark. I'd break it down into topic segments, but then I would first have to listen to myself for 1.5 hours. I spent most of April upgrading my Outcome Visualization concept, so the chat with Allan was a great chance to fire hose stuff I haven't had time to write about. Towards the end when I'm trying to sneak away the trickster lures me back by asking about scandium.